Masonic Forum Home Search Members Calendar Who's On Welcome Guest ( Login | Register ) Recent PostsRecent Posts Popular TopicsPopular Topics Home » General » Ritual - Esoteric & Symbols » The Testament of Solomon 13 posts, Page 2 of 2««12 The Testament of Solomon Rate Topic Display Mode Topic Options Author Message Russell HollandRussell Holland Posted 17/09/2009 04:37 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 11:54 Posts: 246, Visits: 1,522 > Sumerian gods? I thought they were Baal and Marduk? There were (are?) lots of gods - Solomon worshipped a lot of them and he was pretty wise. > Or were those the gods of the Hittites from Ur, the land that Abraham originated from? It seems the gods travelled around quite a lot and there are easy parallels between the gods (names, characteristics and actions) of the various nations >I was also under the impression that Shekinah was another form of the "holy spirit" That seems to be a later spin. Shekinah roughly translates as "she who lives in a tent/tabernacle " - a reference to the consort of Yahweh "Shekhinah is derived from the Hebrew verb שכן. In Biblical Hebrew the word means literally to settle, inhabit, or dwell, and is used frequently in the Hebrew Bible. (See Exodus 40:35, "Moses could not enter the Tent of Meeting, for the cloud rested [shakhan] upon it, and the glory of the Lord filled the Tabernacle." ......... The word "Shekhinah" also means "royalty" or "royal residence" .... The word for Tabernacle, mishcan, is a derivative of the same root and is also used in the sense of dwelling-place in the Bible, e.g. Psalm 132:5 ("Before I find a place for God, mishcanot (dwelling-places) for the Strong One of Israel.") Accordingly, in classic Jewish thought, the Shekhinah refers to a dwelling or settling in a special sense, a dwelling or settling of divine presence,....." When Yahweh departed his consort remained and she was the "glory of the Lord" - or in modern terms we would say "his better half" Later she departed also and the priests had a bit of a problem motivating the populace with no god or goddess in place. Time for some theology - and the consort turns into an abstracted "glory of" and is imported into Christianity as the Holy Spirit Post #11990 M PerrottM Perrott Posted 17/09/2009 08:38 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: 2 days ago @ 22:45 Posts: 291, Visits: 2,183 Russell Holland (17/09/2009)> Sumerian gods? I thought they were Baal and Marduk? There were (are?) lots of gods - Solomon worshipped a lot of them and he was pretty wise.Not that wise. I think he was hedging his bets. A bit like his attitude to women. The more wives, the more likely he was to get laid. All those wives, all those mothers-in -law.> Or were those the gods of the Hittites from Ur, the land that Abraham originated from? It seems the gods travelled around quite a lot and there are easy parallels between the gods (names, characteristics and actions) of the various nationsOr, same gods, it was the nomad tribes that travelled, embellishing the feats of their preferred "hero" around camp fires. Eventually the names changes, the origins became distorted / amplified and none of them realsied they were talking about the same god. It was after all, not just the genetic material that was exchanged when strangers met.>I was also under the impression that Shekinah was another form of the "holy spirit"That seems to be a later spin. Shekinah roughly translates as "she who lives in a tent/tabernacle " - a reference to the consort of Yahweh"Shekhinah is derived from the Hebrew verb שכן. In Biblical Hebrew the word means literally to settle, inhabit, or dwell, and is used frequently in the Hebrew Bible. (See Exodus 40:35, "Moses could not enter the Tent of Meeting, for the cloud rested [shakhan] upon it, and the glory of the Lord filled the Tabernacle." ......... The word "Shekhinah" also means "royalty" or "royal residence" .... The word for Tabernacle, mishcan, is a derivative of the same root and is also used in the sense of dwelling-place in the Bible, e.g. Psalm 132:5 ("Before I find a place for God, mishcanot (dwelling-places) for the Strong One of Israel.") Accordingly, in classic Jewish thought, the Shekhinah refers to a dwelling or settling in a special sense, a dwelling or settling of divine presence,....."When Yahweh departed his consort remained and she was the "glory of the Lord" - or in modern terms we would say "his better half"Later she departed also and the priests had a bit of a problem motivating the populace with no god or goddess in place. Time for some theology - and the consort turns into an abstracted "glory of" and is imported into Christianity as the Holy Spirit That is an unusual spin on what I thought I already knew. I thought the shekinah light was the power held in the Ark that was carried before the israeli peoples army. When Jahweh withdrew his support and protection because of the idolatry of his people, the power returned to him. Post #11993 AzazielAzaziel Posted 17/09/2009 13:34 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 02/05/2010 00:20 Posts: 65, Visits: 288 I'll definitely set time aside for all of this - thanks folks Chris Post #12005 « Prev Topic | Next Topic » 13 posts, Page 2 of 2««12 Reading This Topic Active Users: 0 (0 guests, 0 members, 0 anonymous members) Forum Moderators: TFM Admin, Mike Martin, Stu Thorpe, Tom Cherup Forum Jump... ---------------- Forum Home Search Members List Calendar Who's Online ---------------- Site Announcements |-- Announcements General |-- Greetings to our New Forumites |-- General Masonic Discussion |-- Masonic History (Legend -V- Fact) |-- Ritual - Esoteric & Symbols |-- Travellers' Diary & Dates |-- The Reading/Watching Room |-- The Appendant Degrees and Orders |-- Feminine & Co-Masonry |-- Knobs & Excrescences All times are GMT, Time now is 4:03pm Powered By InstantForum.NET v4.1.4 © 2010 Execution: 0.047. 10 queries. Compression Disabled.
Not that wise. I think he was hedging his bets. A bit like his attitude to women. The more wives, the more likely he was to get laid. All those wives, all those mothers-in -law.
Or, same gods, it was the nomad tribes that travelled, embellishing the feats of their preferred "hero" around camp fires. Eventually the names changes, the origins became distorted / amplified and none of them realsied they were talking about the same god. It was after all, not just the genetic material that was exchanged when strangers met.
That is an unusual spin on what I thought I already knew. I thought the shekinah light was the power held in the Ark that was carried before the israeli peoples army. When Jahweh withdrew his support and protection because of the idolatry of his people, the power returned to him.
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