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I must investigate it further. Post #9041 Mike MartinMike Martin Posted 22/06/2009 14:07 Past Master Group: Administrators Last Login: Yesterday @ 21:28 Posts: 1,060, Visits: 2,506 Yes I love this stuff, despite it not really having any Masonic relevance.Steve, you may enjoy this resource: http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/test_solomon.pdfOh and you must not forget the shamir: http://www.horrormasters.com/Text/a2206.pdf MikeThe Freemasons' Grand Charity My Mother Lodge website Join or just visit my Masonic Web RingSee my BALLS here Post #9049 Brother_TJBrother_TJ Posted 23/06/2009 01:18 Journeyman Group: Forum Members Last Login: 08/03/2010 22:50 Posts: 134, Visits: 169 Son of David controlling demons is a early look into Demonology and early Gnostic religions.Interesting indeed. --Bro. "TJ" 3ºAmethyst Lodge No. 2, Orient of Tulsa, Oklahoma and Isis Lodge No. 3, Orient of Oklahoma City, OklahomaAmerican Federation of Human RightsThurifer/Deputy Orator (Invested 2010) *Amethyst Lodge* TulsaDeputy Secretary/Junior Deacon (Assigned by RWM under Dispensation 2010) *Isis Lodge* Oklahoma City'Opinions expressed in this forum are solely the discretion of the author and not of the American Co-Freemasonry organization, American Federation of Human Rights/American Co-Freemasonry. Unless there is references to facts and history to the best of this author's knowledge.' Thank You Post #9094 NosameerfNosameerf Posted 16/09/2009 01:42 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 01:28 Posts: 316, Visits: 6,298 This may be of interest Freemasonry: Rituals, Symbols & History of the Secret Society By Mark Stavish: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QZQK6as71lsC&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=solmon+freemasonry+demons&source=bl&ots=JvYuxw4GK7&sig=8REYqBcovfRd3bI2Up8_xt7ypEU&hl=en&ei=5i2wSoDgN8Oh4gaa_52tCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9#v=onepage&q=&f=false Or this: p.39 The Key to Solomon's Key: Secrets of Magic and Masonry http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z15J8lgCqxYC&pg=PP1&dq=the+key+to+solomon%27s+key&ei=zDOwSrBNmJDJBKXe6JMD&client=firefox-a#v=onepage&q=&f=false This book might be the most useful or perhaps not! Anyone else have any ideas? Strength of manhood and beauty of spirit need combination. Masonry thus needs strength with gracefulness, stability with courtesy, and firmness with gentleness. Sapere aude; incipe! Post #11959 Russell HollandRussell Holland Posted 16/09/2009 06:35 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Yesterday @ 01:47 Posts: 217, Visits: 1,326 It seems that various characters in the early history of the human race were later depicted as demons to fit with the politics or religion of the time. For example the goddess Lilith was supposedly the first wife of Adam and was later depicted as a demon - perhaps because of competition from the Shekinah (she who lives in a tent) - the consort of Jehovah. The account of Solomon and Ashmodai is interesting for its account of Eldad. "El" indicates a god and "dad" tells us which one. Eldad appears to be immortal - being 119 years old with no wrinkles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadad According to that account "ha" is the definite article thus: "the Dad" So here is Solomon being instructed by a Sumerian god. I wonder whether Ashmodai who needed sleep and had his camp at the top of a mountain was actually another god in competition with Eldad. I suspect such stories get rewritten to fit current belief systems Post #11961 bodbod Posted 16/09/2009 06:39 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: 2 days ago @ 21:33 Posts: 247, Visits: 471 Russell Holland (16/09/2009) It seems that various characters in the early history of the human race were later depicted as demons to fit with the politics or religion of the time./snip/ I suspect such stories get rewritten to fit current belief systems As then, so now, and throughout history, after all it's written by the victors, not the vanquished Post #11962 M PerrottM Perrott Posted 16/09/2009 23:13 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: 2 days ago @ 00:22 Posts: 281, Visits: 2,105 Nosameerf (16/09/2009)This may be of interest Freemasonry: Rituals, Symbols & History of the Secret SocietyBy Mark Stavish:This book might be the most useful or perhaps not! Anyone else have any ideas?Thanks a lot for those, I will have to set aside some real study time for them. Post #11978 M PerrottM Perrott Posted 16/09/2009 23:24 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: 2 days ago @ 00:22 Posts: 281, Visits: 2,105 Russell Holland (16/09/2009)It seems that various characters in the early history of the human race were later depicted as demons to fit with the politics or religion of the time.For example the goddess Lilith was supposedly the first wife of Adam and was later depicted as a demon - perhaps because of competition from the Shekinah (she who lives in a tent) - the consort of Jehovah.The account of Solomon and Ashmodai is interesting for its account of Eldad. "El" indicates a god and "dad" tells us which one. Eldad appears to be immortal - being 119 years old with no wrinkles.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HadadAccording to that account "ha" is the definite article thus: "the Dad"So here is Solomon being instructed by a Sumerian god. I wonder whether Ashmodai who needed sleep and had his camp at the top of a mountain was actually another god in competition with Eldad.I suspect such stories get rewritten to fit current belief systemsSumerian gods? I thought they were Baal and Marduk? Baal who later became the cow effigy that was worshipped in the Kingdom of Judah, and Marduk from the time of Moses, the "god" that descended and enlightented the people but was later rejected by his "priests" for his wickedness. I beleive they trapped his spirit in a human form with secret rituals and then dismembered him rendering him a snake like form and then buried him alive. Or were those the gods of the Hittites from Ur, the land that Abraham originated from?I was also under the impression that Shekinah was another form of the "holy spirit", which was sent to earth and stored in the Ark of the Covenant. It was revealed only with the aid of the Urim and Thummin that were in the possession of the High Priest stored in the sacred vestment.You will have to educate me further Russell, perhaps off forum as this is straying too far from Freemasonry. Post #11979 lauderdalelauderdale Posted 16/09/2009 23:47 Excellent Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 00:08 Posts: 1,911, Visits: 3,573 The Shekinah is mentioned in the Ritual of the Royal Order of Scotland. Post #11981 « Prev Topic | Next Topic » 13 posts, Page 1 of 212»» Reading This Topic Active Users: 0 (0 guests, 0 members, 0 anonymous members) No members currently viewing this topic. 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Steve, you may enjoy this resource: http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/test_solomon.pdf
Oh and you must not forget the shamir: http://www.horrormasters.com/Text/a2206.pdf
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Interesting indeed.
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Thanks a lot for those, I will have to set aside some real study time for them.
Sumerian gods? I thought they were Baal and Marduk? Baal who later became the cow effigy that was worshipped in the Kingdom of Judah, and Marduk from the time of Moses, the "god" that descended and enlightented the people but was later rejected by his "priests" for his wickedness. I beleive they trapped his spirit in a human form with secret rituals and then dismembered him rendering him a snake like form and then buried him alive. Or were those the gods of the Hittites from Ur, the land that Abraham originated from?
I was also under the impression that Shekinah was another form of the "holy spirit", which was sent to earth and stored in the Ark of the Covenant. It was revealed only with the aid of the Urim and Thummin that were in the possession of the High Priest stored in the sacred vestment.
You will have to educate me further Russell, perhaps off forum as this is straying too far from Freemasonry.
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